t By Canadian Press VICTORIA Premier Dave 3arrett says that the British Columbia government is con erned about the over all cost f putting and keeping cars on he road but is not concerned specifically with the price of gasoline The premier asked on an pen line radio show what BC Ianned to do about the pend pending ¬ ing increase in gasoline prices said there were other factors effecting the cost of running a ar He said his NDP govern nent was working on a plan ihat would be simple and that Youths held in break ins City RCMP have ap apprehended ¬ prehended two juveniles fol owing two break ins and van lalism early Good Friday Police recovered about 51500 in tools and equipment Uolen from QM Machine - rVorks Ltd 975 Third Ave Three cars and a truck were emoved from a garage at Mikes Auto Body Ltd 831 Fourth Ave Obscenities were Dainted on the outside walls of 1 Tune Up at 749 Third Ave with i spray bomb The juveniles will face 12 ounts of theft possession of stolen property and wilful damage when they appear in ourt Tuesday By Tony Kant Citizen Staff Reporter There are cockroaches in town Theres no doubt about it says Norm Gallant senior inspector for the Northern In Interior ¬ terior Health Unit Gallant made the statement after a recent complaint from a Prince George woman who said there were cockroaches climbing up the walls of a re restaurant ¬ staurant while she ate a meal The inspector said he doesnt doubt there were cockroaches on the premises in question even though an inspection was carried out and none were found I dont question the woman when she says theres cockroaches Its a very com common ¬ mon problem around here Weve come across them in a complete cross section of re An Easter honeymoon is being celebrated this week by two Prince George young-at-hearts who have proved that its not only a young mans fancy that turns to romantic thoughts at this time of year Joe Hogue 80 and Mary Siemans 69 tied the knot Palm Sunday at Knox United Church after a whirlwind courtship The couple lives at the senior citizens home i r V VivvVtViVi vivvvriVvivvvixNMVvXVvXyAvivvtViVtViViVivvtVtvvtvviv ViVwvvivvvM viVivvtvvtViVivrivvtvtviVtVtvvvivt riit 111 t would mainly benefit northern BC residents and industrial workers who have no access to public transit Barrett would give no details of the government plan but said it would be announced well in advance of the increase in gasoline prices expected about May 15 when oil com companies ¬ panies pass on increases in wellhead oil prices On another topic Premier Barrett said the BC govern government ¬ ment would support any action by the federal government to reinstate tax concessions to private industry for building rental housing There needs to be tax con concessions ¬ cessions for private building of rental units he said Despite the federal NDP policy against tax concession to industry BC would support conces concessions ¬ sions for this type of building Premier Barrett also said his government is considering Mine clean BUTTLE LAKE CP - A BC Research survey of water quality in Buttle Lake on Van Vancouver ¬ couver Island has concluded that a tailings outflow from Western Mines Ltd has no detrimental effect The report said water flowing out of the lake is above limits set out in the Canadian Drinking Water Standards Cockroaches staurants Its a question of keeping them under control he said Gallant said many restaur restaurants ¬ ants in Prince George have been plagued by the insects and that most are under con contract ¬ tract for a regular extermina extermination ¬ tion program But fumigation of premises must wait for the monthly visit from a pest control company based in Kamloops Gallant said the problem is most common in older build buildings ¬ ings especially those with a variety of uses They nest in cracks and crevices and many people dont know they have them until it becomes a serious problem For those who arent ac acquainted ¬ quainted with the pests cock cockroaches ¬ roaches are flat oval light to dark brown to black and have The YM YWCA building fund is approaching the half halfway ¬ way mark A meeting of cam campaign ¬ paign officials confirmed that 365094 has been raised to date The campaign commit committee ¬ tee is seeking to raise 800000 to erect a building to house a gym two handball courts locker rooms a counselling of office ¬ fice arts and crafts rooms meeting rooms a lounge and an office abandoning the idea of holding two legislative sessions a year replacing them with one long session Thief burns automobiles District RCMP are looking for a thief who burns au automobiles ¬ tomobiles he has stolen The fourth car fire this year was discovered Sunday at the Shelly Road garbage dump A police spokesman said the burning automobile a 1968 Meteor was discovered at 7 45 pm and was earlier reported stolen in the city TWO DAYS common Jong whip like an tennae The German cockroach reaches one half inch in length and the Ameri American ¬ can cockroach can reach one and one quarter inches Both species develop from a wingless nymph to fully winged adults and can take as long as one year to complete a life cycle They prefer warm dark secluded places and are scavengers of foodstuff and other organic material Gallant said their excrement contaminates food causing diseases One study found salmonella bacteria present in excrement to be infective after more than six months The health unit discourages restaurant owners from trying to do fumigating by them themselves ¬ selves because of the danger of poisons contaminating food and the areas where it is pre prepared ¬ pared SumMa COFFEE URVtCCS LTD Complete office coffee service Daily delivery Ph 563 8120 Stan Ziebart 1824 First Ave PG Norris said a series of four meetings were held beginning March 26 and a number of complaints wefe tabled by the union All of these were fully dis discussed ¬ cussed and many were resol resolved ¬ ved he said The remaining complaints were the subject of a commitment from the vice president calling for a full and immediate investigation He added that the same meetings had produced ag agreements ¬ reements on three of seven questions of interpretation and administration of the contract In a letter to Mason April 3 the railway described the re remaining ¬ maining four issues as genuine differences of opinion in respect of interpretation of the agreement and strongly recommended that these mat matters ¬ ters be sent to arbitration in accordance with the terms of the contract Norris charged the union has refused to join in a submis submission ¬ sion to a third party and said the railway sees this as the only sensible route towards re resolution ¬ solution of the matters raised by the engineers He added that the railway has offered to waive any time limit restrictions and to meet immediately in the pres presence ¬ ence of an arbitrator whos findings the railway would ac accept ¬ cept as final and binding ESP seminars set World peace through the ef effective ¬ fective use of psychic aware awareness ¬ ness is the aim of the Inner Peace Movement IPM says Byron Crull guest speaker at seminars on the subject Tues Tuesday ¬ day and Wednesday at the Inn of the North War is caused by the collec collective ¬ tive hostility and hatred of a nation by its judgmental at attitudes ¬ titudes says Crull BC ad administrator ¬ ministrator for the IPM De Developing ¬ veloping awareness in the in individual ¬ dividual breaks down the col collective ¬ lective attitudes Founded by Francisco Coll in 1964 the IPM has since spread into cities all over North America as well as Eruope and Puerto Rico It is described as a non profit non political non sectarian educational program aimed at freeing people by taking the extra out of extra extrasensory ¬ sensory perception and mak making ¬ ing it a practical way of life There are two introductory programs set for 8 pm Tues Tuesday ¬ day and Wednesday April 15 and 16 in the Nechako Room There will be an admission charge for thelectures There is a small admission fee Crull said CHARLIE OLDS CH Olds mourned A memorial service will be held Wednesday for pioneer Prince George railroader trapper and conservationist CH Charlie Olds who died Friday in Prince George Reg Regional ¬ ional Hospital The 1 pm ser service ¬ vice will be held at Assmans Funeral Chapel Mr Olds who was 82 was born in1 California and moved to British Columbia with his parents in 1895 In 1912 he and his father walked the 400 miles between Ashcroft and Fort Fraser where they were hired to clear the right-of-way for the construction of the Grand Trunk Pacific Railway GTP as well as the townsite of Fort Fraser Before becoming a full time railroader with the GTP at Endako Mr Olds helped con construct ¬ struct the telegraph line from Fort Fraser to Fort St James and it was at Endako that he married the former Sarah Mclnnes established a home homestead ¬ stead a trapline and a life lifelong ¬ long interest in conservation He moved to Prince George in 1920 with the Grand Trunk later the Canadian National Railways and remained here following his retirement as a locomotive engineer in 1957 He is survived by one son Charles of Prince George three daughters Mrs Norma Smith Burnaby and Mrs George Fran Gibbins and Mrs Art Barbara Murray both of Prince George Guaranteed Certificates Debentures 70 7 Canada Permanent 444 Victoria Street Prince George BC Phone 563 0646 R E White Manager THE CITIZEN Prince George - Monday April 15 1974 -3 IlViiViiiitiiViMViViViViii Autobody shops charged with price juggling here By Derry McDonell Citizen Staff Reporter Some Prince George auto body shops have been charging less for repair work on non Autoplan claims than the Insur Insurance ¬ ance Corporation of BC ICBC is wil willing ¬ ling to pay in spite of their claims ICBCs labor rates are too low The charge is made by the regional head of ICBC Lome McCuish of Prince George And an area resident claims some shops were willing to work for less than the ICBC rates provided the cus customer ¬ tomer paid cash and did not make an ICBC claim The charges call into question claims by the northern Interior autobody re repairmen ¬ pairmen that the ICBC labor rate of 14 an hour is too low and that an additional 150 an hour must be paid by the cus customer ¬ tomer as a surcharge in order to cover costs McCuish revealed acopy of an invoice made out by Norgate Auto Body Ltd for repairs to a car owned by a Manitoba resident insured under Autopak the government car insurance plan in that province The invoice was dated March 22 after the March 1 openirrg date of Autoplan and after area auto body shops had an announced ¬ nounced the 150 an hour surcharge It showed a total of 43 hours for labor and 3660 for shop supply The labor BCR WORK-TO-RULE rate charged was 1450 an hour This plus the shop supply charge totalled 65950 McCuish pointed out that under the ICBC formula 14 an hour plus 25 per cent for painting time and 10 percent for shop materials ICBC would have paid Norgate 69160 for the claim They billed Autopak 3210 less than ICBC would have paid for that claim and yet theyve been saying that they need a 150 an hour surcharge to stay in business1 said McCuish Questioned about the matter Norgate president Alex Berg who has also been the spokesman for the northern interior autobody shop owners in their dispute with ICBC said it was a question ot previous commitment The estimate on this Manitoba job was done on March 5 three days before the shop owners agreed to start charg charging ¬ ing the extra 150 an hour1 he said We didnt start adding the surcharge until March 8 and we agreed then that we would honor any previous estimates at the rate shown on them Thegoing labor rate when the esti estimate ¬ mate was done was 1450 an hour he claimed A check of the Citizens files however shows that the meeting at which the shop owners agreed to start adding the surcharge was held on Tuesday March 5 the same day on which the estimate was made A news item announcing the surcharge appeared in the March 6 edition However according to ICBC records every Prince George auto body repair shop with the exception of two J and L Auto body and Rudys Auto Body had already been demanding the 150 an hour surcharge when Autoplan went into effect March 1 A memorandum noting this situation and the two exceptions is on file at the ICBC office McCuish noted that his of office ¬ fice had received up to 300 claims the first week Autoplan was in effect and said that we were getting dozens of complaints from customers that the shops wanted an extra 150 an hour to do the repair work ICBC adjusters were advised to tell claimants the names of the two shops which were accepting the 14 an hour rate Within a week after the official an announcement ¬ nouncement of the surcharge however J and L and Rudys decided to join those shops demanding the surcharge Transportation Minister Robert Strachan president of ICBC said how however ¬ ever that information he had received showed not all Prince George residents with an ICBC claim were being charged the extra 150 an hour He made the claim in a recent interview here Asked for comment McCuish said it Official says talks reasonable The vice president of the BC Railway BCR has de lied a union spokesmans charges that management has refused to negotiate reasona reasonably ¬ bly during the current work-to-rule campaign by locomo ive engineers The slowdown threatens to lose Prince Georges three pulp mills due to a lack of hemical supplies Replying to statements made by Ken Mason general chairman of the locomotive engineers BCR vice president Mckenzie Norris said the con contract ¬ tract signed by the two sides in November 1973 provided the locomotive engineers with the best wage agreement of any line haul railway in Canada Meetings this year were OVER ALL PROBLEM designed to produce a revised and reprinted collective ag agreement ¬ reement he continued but in mid March the engineers commenced a work slowdown on the railway said to be in support of its complaints re regarding ¬ garding working conditions together with differences aris arising ¬ ing from the interpretation and administration of the collec collective ¬ tive agreement Car cost plan hinted was difficult for ICBC to prove that some people were not being surcharged since ICBC forms do not make any pro provision ¬ vision for recording it The only method he said was to contact customers and ask them personally if they had paid it or not He said a minor survey had been con conducted ¬ ducted on the question but that the re results ¬ sults were inconclusive Another source however said that a check of six claims conducted Tuesday revealed that none of the car owners had paid the surcharge Another car owner wrote to the Citizen complaining that some shops were ap apparently ¬ parently willing to work for less than the ICBC rate if the owner would pay cash He said he took his damaged car to four auto body shops and asked for esti estimates ¬ mates without telling the shop owners that he had made an ICBC claim He compared the four estimates to the ICBC assessment and found two lower one higher and one the same He then went back to the shops with the lower estimates he said and admit admitted ¬ ted that he had made an ICBC claim and that its estimate was higher than that made by the body shop I was informed that if I was prepared to pay cash the body shop would stick by its estimate otherwise I would still have to pay the 150 an hour sur surcharge ¬ charge he said Commenting on this spokesman Alex Berg said it was impossible for this man to have had an ICBC estimate to compare the shop estimates with since ICBC forms dont show a dollar figure for the work until its completed Berg admitted however that the ICBC forms do show the number of hours estimated to repair the car and that the customer can compute an ap approximate ¬ proximate dollar value from these fig figures ¬ ures He then said the writer had misrep misrepresented ¬ resented himself to the shop owners involved He had no right to ask them for an estimate without telling them that hed made an ICBC claim he said The writer went on to suggest that since it was apparently possible to shop around for the best bargain among the body shops that ICBC should give a cash settlement to claimants with the stipulation that the car must be re returned ¬ turned to an ICBC office for inspection to show that the work had been carried out Inspection would be necessary to prevent car owners simply pocketing the money and not having the repairs made McCuish agreed wholeheartedly with the writers stand Hes right on with the idea of a cash settlement he said and as a matter of fact ICBC is considering this as an Business booming Business continues to flourish in Prince George ac according ¬ cording to the latest statistics available from the city licens licensing ¬ ing department Although the number of new licence applications last month 33 dwindled from the number recorded in March 1973 61 the total for the first quarter 2035 is above that of the corresponding period for 4 PCE alternative to the present system He explained that the current system was designed to provide a convenience to the customer by eliminating the need to get varying estimates on repairs but that since in practice it did not appear to be doing this ICBC might have to aban abandon ¬ don the idea If ICBC is forced to begin offering cash settlements he added it will mean and added inconvenience to claimants McCuish backed ICBCs continuing position that the body shops save money be dealing through the government cor corporation ¬ poration The ICBC form with the claim number on it becomes the shops in invoice ¬ voice when the job is completed he said This he indicated saves the shop much bookkeeping and eliminates the carrying of long term accounts If any shop cant save money that way they should fire their bookkeeper he said Northern interior body shops have presented a brief to ICBC outlining their claim that an additional 150 an hour is necessary due to higher business costs in the north ICBC would not com comment ¬ ment officially yet on the contents of the brief but one source indicated that it showed no change in the basic position maintained by the shop owners since the dispute began Jet landings moved to Cariboo terminal Inadequate fire protection at Quesnel Airport has led to can cancellation ¬ cellation of CP Air Boeing 737 jet passenger plane landings there and a switch to landings at Williams Lake Landings of the 107 passenger twin jet planes was begun at Quesnel last week five days after firemen at Prince George walked off their jobs halting passenger traffic into that airport Late last week the transport ministry after re evaluating the landings at Quesnel de decided ¬ cided fire fighting standards and the runway standards there were not adequate to allow anything more than emergency landings by jet air aircraft ¬ craft as large as a Boeing 737 Williams Lake Airport has a foam truck and trained aux auxiliary ¬ iliary ground crew firemen considered adequate for 737 sized jets but not the larger tri jet 727 size a trans transport ¬ port ministry air operations spokesman said today Quesnel Airport is served by auxiliary ground crew firemen also but its major fire fighting equipment is a 350 pound dry chemical carrying truck The transport ministry spokesman said engineers are not sure if the runway at Quesnel would support continual landings of heavy jets Williams Lake Airport is last year 1895 This years revenue from the sale of li licences ¬ cences 260153 has also top topped ¬ ped last years figures 245033 Fifteen firms went out of business in March a normal occurrence when seasonal li licences ¬ cences are not renewed Eigh Eighteen ¬ teen other licence applications are for approval while 126 more are pending Bath Mat Sets Photo Albums Colors of green blue gold and yellow l QO 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