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4
going
to
be
very
careful
to
move
with
balanced
budgets,
and
to
try
to
bring
our
priorities
into
place,
hoping
that
people
will
stick
with
us
and
understand
that
there's
a
long
term
pay
off
for
the
vulnerable,
and
the
sick
and
the
workers.
And
that
we
will
be
reasonably
respecting
the
business
community,
but
that
we
will
not
be
engaged
in
chronic
handouts.
Me:
The
business
community's
one
that's
kind
of
traditionally
been
afraid
of
the
NDP.
How
does
the
NDP
see
changing
this?
MARZARI:
Mike
Harcourt's
been
very
careful
to
work
closely
with
the
business
community
and
has
done
so
throughout
his
career.
He
understands
full
well
that
private
business
works
hand
in
hand
with
government
in
a
mixed
economy.
Me:
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
term
"mixed
economy."
MARZARI:
Mixed
economy?
It
means
that
there's
no
such
thing
as
free
enterprise
as
totally
laissez-faire.
The
government
in
Canada,
particularly,
has
always
been
a
partner,
whether
that
be
Canadian
Pacific
giving
over
land
or
whether
it
be
special
concessions
to
the
large
forestry
firms
in
British
Columbia
to
be
sure
that
they
maintain
jobs.
But
the
appropriate
thing
to
do
is
set
the
rules,
because
what
business
wants
is
rules
that
they
can
work
inside
without
whimsical
changing
of
rules.
Because
when
they've
got
their
five-year
capital
plans
organized,
they
don't
want
to
know
that
something's
going
to
change
next
Tuesday.
They
don't
want
whimsy
and
they
don't
want
confrontation.
It
does
not
suit
the
business
community
of
this
province
to
have
labour
unrest
or
to
have
unsettled
native
land
claims.
So
Mike
has
established
that
understanding
with
the
business
community,
and
they
respect
that,
cause
they
are
nothing
if
not
long-range
planners.
Marzari
introduces
Joan
Smallwood:
MARZARI:
Joan
is
critic
for
Social
Services,
and
you've
got
my
four
major
points
on
women
already.
Me:
Housing
is
a
problem
for
women,
especially
since
the
divorce
rate
has
increased
and
more
women
are
finding
themselves
as
heads
of
families.
Maybe
you
could
tell
me
a
little
about
SMALLWOOD:
I
guess
that
the
best
way
to
deal
with
that
is.
.
.Ideal
withSocial
Services
but
we
have
a
separate
critic
for
housing
which
is
sort
of
back-to-back
with
Municipal
Affairs.
But
anyway,
in
reference
to
housing,
what
I'd
like
to
say
is
that
the
way
that
we're
dealing
with
poverty
in
the
province
in
particular
is
a
comprehensive
plan
to
and
agoal
to
eliminate
and
eradicate
poverty
in
B.C.
As
a
component
of
that,
we
acknowledge
the
need
for
good,
affordable
housing.
So
we've
made
that
commitment
to
deal
with
the
need
for
an
increase
in
housing
starts,
the
ability
for
people
to
own
starter
homes,
whether
they're
small
families
or
seniors,
as
well
as
looking
at
subsidized
housing
supports.
In
addition
to
that,
one
of
the
major
problems
with
the
housing
market
at
this
time
in
the
lower
mainland,
in
Vancouver,
and
I
suspect,
hearing
about
some
of
the
difficulties
that
Lois
is
dealing
with
up
here
as
well,
is
the
lack
of
a
rentalsman,
the
inability
of
renters
to
have
someone
that
can
arbitrate
problems,
to
have
someone
that
can
deal
with
problems
between
tenants
and
landlords.
To
negotiate
rent.
Me:
What
are
some
other
areas
that
you're
involved
with;
how
about
social
welfare?
SMALLWOOD:
I
guess
in
taking
over
that
responsibility
it
took
me
a
little
while
to
begin
to
grapple
with
it
because
all
too
often
it
feels,
the
way
the
Socreds
want
to
deal
with
policy
in
that
area
is
in
a
very
ad
hoc
fashion.
You
raise
an
issue
and
they
say
give
me
a
name.
What
that
does
is
frustrate
anyone
from
dealing
with
the
big
picture.
So
I
spent
some
time
trying
to
find
that
big
picture,
and
I
think
very
clearly
that
social
services
in
this
province
again,
poverty
are
used
as
a
proponent
of
their
economic
strategy.
I
think
that
they
purposely
use
poor
people,
whether
they
are
the
working
poor
or
people
on
income
assistance,
to
help
drive
down
wages,
and
I
think
there's
enough
indication
that
that
strategy
has
been
successful.
There's
twice
as
many
people
on
welfare
now
as
there
was
by
population
in
75.
Minimum
wage
1975
minimum
wage
was
at
122
of
the
poverty
line;
in
1988
it
was
88
so
there's
been
a
real
erosion
of
standard
of
living
there.
And
what
that
is
creating
is
statistics
like
63
of
those
people
living
below
the
poverty
line
have
a
single
member
working,
so
we
have
a
large
number
of
working
poor
in
this
province.
So,
part
of
what
in
sort
of
getting
a
handle
on
that
bigger
picture
began
to
deal
with
is.
.'cause
I
don't
think
that
you
can
set
as
a
goal
the
eradication
of
poverty
without
seeing
where
it
fits,
right?
In
this
attempt
to
draw
that
picture,
what
it
says
to
me
is
that
the
Socreds
strategy
is
one
of
driving
down
wages
to
compete
with
lower
wages
in
other
countries.
I
think
that's
folly;
I
think
that
costs
us.
I
think
that
it
works
on
our
weaknesses
rather
than
our
strengths,
and
I
think
as
a
strategy
we
have
got
to
haveone
that
is
made
inB.C.
and
identifies
and
works
on
our
strengths
.
That's
the
only
way
we;re
going
to
begin
to
deal
with
poverty
in
B.C.
The
other
component
of
that
is
recognizing
who
is
poor
and
while
I
think
that
the
Socreds
have
been
able
to
perpetuate
their
economic
strategy
by
a
divide
and
conquer,
confrontational
stance,
pointing
at
welfare
recipients
as
being
unworthy,
as
being
welfare
bums,
the
reality
is
that
if
you
are
native.
Metis
or
off
reserve,
you've
got
55
liklihood
of
you
living
in
poverty,
if
you
are
disabled,
nearly
60,
if
you
are
a
single
mother
it
is
60
if
you
are
a
senior
over
65
,
seven
out
of
ten
women
are
in
poverty.
If
you
are
theother
growing
group
in
this
are
men
over
the
age
of
50
that
have
become
technologically
redundant.
So
if
we
really
look
at
the
practicalities
of
the
group
that
we're
dealing
with
here
I
think
that
there
are
practical
solutions.
The
reason
that
women
are
disproportionately
poor
is
because
they
earn
less
money,
not
only
on
a
wage
basis,
but
in
a
lifetime
than
men
do.
In
'86
when
Zalm
came
into
power,
women
earned
66
cents
on
the
dollar;
they
now
earn
60
cents,
so
we're
losing
ground.
There's
practical
things
we
can
do
for
native
people.
We
can
deal
with
issues
around
land
claims,
around
their
ability
to
control
their
own
economic
destiny
and
support
them
around
some
of
their
issues
around
family
and
community.
We
can
do
things
with
the
disabled
community
that
will
do
two
things.
People
that
are
unable
to
work
and
are
unable
to
maintain
their
own
standard
of
living,
they
should
be
pensioned
off,
we
should
guarantee
them
a
standard
of
living
that
does
not
penalize
them
for
how
they
were
born
or
an
injury
that
is
not
their
fault.
For
women
we
can
do
things
like
and
I'm
sure
that
Darlene
already
talked
to
you
about
pay
equity
and
minimum
wage
and
affirmative
action
programs.
Me:
I
wonder
if
we
could
just
talk
about
affirmative
action
for
a
moment.
I've
been
around
the
College
of
New
Caledonia
a
lot
and
I've
heard
a
lot
of
people
say
that
affirmative
action
is
just
discrimination
in
reverse,
and
they
don't
wantit
MARZARI:
It's
a
reversal
of
discrimination.
It
was
2000
years
of
discrimination
and
rather
than
reversing
the
discrimination
it
says
what
we're
gonna
do
is
refocus
the
systems
to
give
equal
chance
to
women
so
that
when
a
promotion
decision
is
going
to
be
made,
all
things
being
equal,
we
will
promote
women
to
ensure
that
decision
making
and
mentoring
is
shared
equally
between
the
sexes.
Me:
Mentoring?
MARZARI:
You've
got
to
have
women
in
senior
positions
so
that
other
women
can
look
up
or
look
across
and
say
"Yeah,
I
can
do
that.
I
can
be
apresident;
lean
be
senior
deputy;
I
can
make
decision."
SMALLWOOD:
"I
can
open
doors."
Me:
We
only
have
a
couple
minutes,
and
I'd
really
like
to
talk
about
women
in
politics.
We
talked
briefly
about
problems
you
have
at
home,
you
need
a
supportive
family...
MARZARI:
We
don't
have
problems
at
home;
we
have
challenges.
Me:
Okay,
sorry,
I
phrased
that
badly.
It's
more
difficult
for
women.
So
why
don't
you
guys
give
me
a
quick
one
on
women
in
the
political
parties?
SMALLWOOD:
Do
I
get
to
tell
you
the
story
about
the
latrine
now?
Do
you
know
that
the
closest
bathroom
tothe
Legislature
has
a
urinal
in
it?
What
does
that
tell
you
about
women
in
politics?
There
you
go.
MARZARI:
We're
new
to
politics,
and
if
we
wanted
to
be
50
of
the
federal
house,
it
would
take
us
1500
years
at
the
present
rate.
Somebody
actually
did
a
line
looking
at
the
rate
and
it
would
take
us
1
500
years
to
be
50
represented
in
the
federal
house.
Nobody
'
s
done
that
for
the
province,
but
I
daresay
that
it'd
probably
be
similar.
So
our
rate
of
getting
equality
politically
is
going
to
be
bumped
up.
Me:
There's
a
suggestion
in
a
study
done
by
Janine
Brody
that
the
"gatekeepers"
prevent
women
in
the
local
constituency
level
and
every
level
from
getting
into
politics.
Have
any
of
you
experienced
any
difficulty
in
that
sense?
SMALLWOOD:
I
have.
MARZARI:
No
SMALLWOOD:
but
women
have
to
make
their
own
rules.
It's
a
new
game
MARZARI:
you
have
to
take
power
because
it
doesn't
get
handed
out.
SMALLWOOD:
and
the
fact
is
that
most
women
in
our
party
reject
the
rules
that
they
hand
out.
So
we
are
in
the
process
of
not
only
making
new
rules,
but
finding
a
new
game.
MARZARI:
Our
party
is
also
the
only
party
that
has
gender
equality
on
its
local
executive
SMALLWOOD:
on
all
committees
D:
on
all
committees
of
the
party
Me:
That's
mandated?
BOTH:
Yep
MARZARI:
Our
party
is
the
only
party
that
has
a
conscious
policy
of
seeking
women
to
run
for
nomination;
our
party
BOONE:
It's
minimal
support,
it's
minimal,
but
some
support
for
women.
SMALLWOOD:
We
have
a
long
way
to
go.
MARZARI:
our
party
also
has
one
of
the
strongest
and
most
vocal
women's
rights
committees
in
the
country.
They
have
been
fired
in
a
crucible
of
tough-nosed
politics.
The
words
rang
in
my
ears
the
rest
of
the
day:
'They
have
been
fired
in
a
crucible
of
tough-nosed
politics."
This
was
straight
from
the
heart.
I
attended
the
nomination
meeting
that
evening,
and
watched
this
group
of
dynamic
women
in
a
different
milieu.
Marzari's
flatness
was
gone,
Smallwood's
conversational
manner
dis
appeared,
Boone
retained
her
trademark
personal
warmth.
Each
spoke
from
the
podium
with
a
strength
of
conviction
that
rang
in
her
voice,
her
gestures
and
her
words.
Replacing
the
flatness,
the
fatigue,
and
the
practiced
speech
was
a
dynamic
force
that
emanated
from
each
of
these
women.
They
were
fired
in
a
crucible,
all
right,
and
it
has
made
them
strong.
And
that's
all
I
have
to
say.
MAKING
THE
POLITICAL
PERSONAL
By
Molly
Eichar
It's
about
power,
you
know.
The
basis
of
our
whole
democracy
is
individual
power,
and
if
you
don't
get
politically
involved,
you
don't
have
any
personal
power.
It's
that
simple.
I'm
not
exhorting
you
to
join
the
New
Democrats
or
God
forbid!
the
Socreds.
I
naturally
have
my
own
personal
bias
based
on
the
values
that
I've
developed;
you
have
your
own.
Thesimplefactofthernatteristhatifyou
don't
get
into
the
mainstream
of
party
politics,
you
are
giving
away
your
ability
to
choose
your
way
of
life.
With
the
amount
of
technological
change
that
is
occurring,
with
the
rate
of
environmental
damage
that
is
taking
place,
with
the
overpopulation,
the
undereducation,
the
famine,
with
all
of
the
things
that
are
happening
all
around
us,
we
have
a
greater
obligation
than
ever
to
become
politically
active.
What
can
you
do
about
the
fact
that
unemployment
is
skyrocketing,
throwing
hundreds
of
thousands
out
of
work
across
Canada?
You
can
educate
yourself
about
the
issues.
You
can
learn
about
the
economics
of
poverty,
and
take
the
action
that
you
think
is
appropriate
to
correct
this
problem.
Since
the
onset
of
Keynesian
economic
thinking
resulting
from
the
Great
Depression,
there
has
been
acceptance
of
the
concept
of
a
continuous
level
of
unemployment
asanatural.unnalterablefactofcapitalistlife.
Is
that
necessarily
true?
Do
the
wheels
of
our
society
demand
the
grinding
of
certain
lives
into
dust
because
we
require
unemployment
to
keep
wages
down?
The
law
of
supply
and
demand
suggests
that
this
may
be
so:
if
100
employment
exists,
who
will
the
the
shit
jobs
for
shit
wages?
I
won't.
One
hundred
percent
employment
would
drive
up
wages
of
the
"ordinary"
Canadian,
costing
industry
more
money
in
wages.
Is
this
bad?
I
have
heard
it
argued
so.
What
about
the
right
to
earn
a
living
wage?
Some
have
suggested
that
if
the
minimum
wage
were
raised,
companies
would
cease
to
hire
people
in
low-wage
positions.
It
has
been
implied
that
those
who
would
suffer
most
would
be
the
people
in
the
low-income
groups;
this
includes
the
unskilled,
the
undereducated,
the
disabled,
the
inexperienced.
Do
you
believe
this
is
true?
Do
you
believe
it
is
right?
Whatever
your
belief,
the
only
way
that
you
can
have
a
say
in
the
decision-making
is
to
become
involved
in
the
political
process.
Now,
let
me
expand
on
this
"political
process"
business
just
a
moment.
I'm
not
talking
about
every
individual'
s
right
and
responsibil
ity
to
go
out
and
vote.
It's
a
matter
of
record
that
our
collective
voting
pattern
is
abysmal
in
that
regard,
and
we
would
all
do
well
enough
if
we
were
only
to
get
out
and
vote
on
election
days.
No,
I'm
talking
about,
first
of
all,
thinking
about
the
issues
confronting
our
province,
our
country,
and
our
world.
After
that,
we
must
make
personal
decisions
about
our
positions
on
these
matter,
but
finally,
we
must
take
the
step
of
working
toward
the
change
that
we
see
as
the
mostbeneficial.
I'm
talking
abouttaking
moral,
ethical,
value-laden
decisions,
and
working
within
unparliamentary
process
to
ef
fectchange.
Go
down
to
your
local
constituency
offices
and
find
out
what
stand
is
being
taken
by
the
parties
in
power
on
issues
that
are
important
to
you.
If
you're
a
single
student,
18-20
years
of
age,
this
might
mean
the
employment
issues
referred
to
above.
If
you
are
a
woman,
especially
a
single
mom,
the
issues
of
wage
parity,
of
educational
opportunities,
of
day
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may
be
those
that
stir
your
interest.
If
you
are
a
man
whose
job
has
become,
in
that
wonderful
phrase,
"technologically
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issues
of
retraining
may
be
important.
Most
of
these
examples
are
economic
ones,
but
perhaps
the
state
of
the
environment,
the
global
issues
of
peace,
famine,
or
overpopulation
are
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to
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contribute
to
their
party
and
to
the
democratic
process.
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might
be
the
best
time
you've
ever
spent.
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